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Episode 26 – Talking Tricksters

January 19th, 2018

Episode 26 – Talking Tricksters

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

NB: Throughout this episode, we refer to Loki as he/him, based on the understanding that Loki spends most of his time presenting as male and human-looking (give or take the odd mare episode...).  If you know Loki as she/her, they/them, ze/zir, or another set of pronouns it’s all good :D

 

“Still on Aardvark are we?” Blackadder, Ink and Incapability, series 3 1989

 

‘Let’s Face the Music and Dance’ - written 1936, by Irving Berlin.

 

Tricksters in Druidic mythology: Gwydion and Lugh: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gwydion/gwydion.html

 

The Roman trickster Mercury, (together with his Greek equivalent Hermes https://www.shmoop.com/hermes-mercury/ ) and Discordia. (her Greek equivalent Eris) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(mythology)

 

Other tricksters of the world:

Papa Legba: https://exemplore.com/magic/papalegba  also known as Eshu: http://www.levity.com/figment/trickster.html

Odysseus: https://www.greekmythology.com/Myths/Heroes/Odysseus/odysseus.html 

The Monkey King, or Sun Wukong:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN3_6efimoQ

Coyote and Raven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAKHGe6x8n8

Anansi the spider: https://kidworldcitizen.org/anansi-stories-trickster-spider-west-africa-caribbean/

 

Tricksters, hunger and food: many tricksters have an association with food, hunger and catching food (by setting traps): This can be seen Loki being wildfire, and participating in the eating contest at Utgard (which he cannot win) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX0DPZsCt7E :

Loki invents the first fishing net: http://www.norse-mythology.cba.pl/page,249,loki.html

 

“The earliest use of the word ‘Trick’ in Greek refers to baiting a hook to catch fish” – Trickster Makes this World by Lewis Hyde (1998).

 

The monkey trap, a page which describes the trap and how it applies to the trap of short-term thinking here: http://www.godlessinamerica.com/monkeytrap.html

 

“Fresh fish, we catch them, you buy them” - Disney’s Aladdin (1992)

 

“If you are faced with two paths, take the third way.” Paraphrased from Neelix in Star Trek Voyager’s episode ‘Author, Author’ 2001 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708851/quotes

 

The meaning of ‘mercurial’ - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mercurial

 

Kate’s cannonball and bucket of mercury experiment, otherwise known as the Torricelli Experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm5D47nG9k4 (forget the words, just watch the cannonball)

 

“If I hadn’t seen such riches, I could live with being poor.” Lyrics to ‘Sit Down’ by James, 1989

 

Loki’s involvement in the death of Baldur: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPj_XDtrkc

 

Some of the verses in the Havamal which relate to keeping your own counsel: verses 6, 10 – 11, 20 and 22. The dangers of mixing alcohol and wits, verses 12-14, 17, 19.

 

Loki’s Flyting: we’ll be looking at this in more depth in the next episode, but you’re welcome to go ahead and have an explore if you don’t mind spoilers!

 

Loki’s lips being sewn shut to stop him talking: http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/mythology/myths/text/treasures.htm

 

John Delancie playing Q from the Q continuum.  Star Trek series, most notably The Next Generation episodes, but he also pops up in Deep Space 9 and Voyager.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek)

 

Light as a particle or a wave, or both or neither.  It’s the joys of Quantum Physics: this video explains the theory step by step: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk3fgjHNQ2Q

 

How to find us online

 

“The Staff of Ra, I has translated it.” - Scaryduck’s version of Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark: https://scaryduck.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/condensed-films-raiders-of-lost-ark.html   

 

If you fancy a longer read, try Mercury Rising: Women, Evil and the Trickster Gods, available online here  https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=YemNP0rXIfkC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=mercury+the+trickster&source=bl&ots=ncCSbF4j7Y&sig=Vg1RAO0YE03AgktA5BOV55fbGjQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF4_uHya3YAhWHLcAKHeDxAm04ChDoAQhVMAg

 

There’s also a TED Talk which might be of interest: https://www.ted.com/talks/emily_levine_s_theory_of_everything#t-420495

 

As a last aside, there’s plenty of artwork out there, but we did find these that seem particularly apt: https://muirin007.deviantart.com/art/Deceiver-of-the-Gods-560187369

https://sceith-a.deviantart.com/art/Loki-657643934

and a whole pinterest page here: https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/110971578296659347/?lp=true

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Episode 25 – Nine Noble Virtues

January 2nd, 2018

Episode 25 – Nine Noble Virtues

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

A discussion around the Nine Noble Virtues may evoke some strong reactions.  Please remember that Kate and I can’t (and wouldn’t) tell you how to heathen.

 

“Only a man, whose...” The Golden Child (1986)

 

“Go it, Molesworth” - Nigel Molesworth, as any fule kno, best found in The Compleet Molesworth (1958) or the reprint Molesworth (2000 Penguin)

 

Havamal, verse 3 (warm knees):  http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe04.htm

 

There are two main versions of the Nine Noble Virtues that you can go explore, an article here should start you off: http://www.goheathen.org/wordpress/?p=24

 

Limitations for the Nine Noble Virtues are summed up nicely in a two part article, available here: https://kvasiramongstthegods.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/heathen-ethics-part-1-nine-nearly-useless-virtues/  and here’s part II: https://kvasiramongstthegods.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/heathen-ethics-part-3-omg-411-4-afas-nnv-omg-wtf-bbq-lol/

 

Point of note for the AFA nine virtues: the last one on their list is one which doesn’t follow the pattern of a virtue and it’s opposite: Ancestry is better than Universalism.  For us, this is not a zero sum, it’s not ‘choose one or the other, but not both.’ We can be universalist and still want to respect our family.  Universalism is based more in the principle that anyone can practice heathenry, rather than who my ancestors were.  We suspect that here, in light of other related statements the AFA has made, this can be taken as supporting an exclusive interpretation of heathenry.

 

Kate’s Foot and Mouth Anecdote.  Info on the outbreak can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_United_Kingdom_foot-and-mouth_outbreak

 

AFA statement on race and heathenry led to many organisations signing up to Declaration 127, based on a verse from the Havamal.  TAC’s own blog post is here:http://www.theasatrucommunity.org/single-post/2016/09/05/Declaration-127

 

TAC supports Declaration 127, which is a confirmation of their Universalist principles.  You can also sign it as an individual, or as a Kindred, Hearth, organisation or group, and read more about it here: http://www.declaration127.com/

 

#Shieldwall is another anti-xenophobic initiative that you can show support for:

 

“No one expects the Spanish Inquistion” - Monty Python. "The Spanish Inquisition" is a series of sketches in Monty Python's Flying Circus, Series 2 Episode 2 (The Spanish Inquisition), first broadcast 22 September 1970

 

The Spanish Inquisition, more here: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Spanish-Inquisition

 

“Run away from the hills!” Blackadder first series: The Black Adder: Episode 1: The Foretelling. [1983]

 

“Answers on a piece of batter pudding” from The Goon Show: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Radio/TheGoonShow

 

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