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Episode 31 – Lord Surt and Fire

March 30th, 2018

Episode 31 – Lord Surt and Fire

 

Shout out to TAC Charter member  , for the topic for this episode

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

There’s lots of UPG in this episode, we’ve tried to reference it as best we can.

 

Suzanne and Kate conjugate and decline – dratted latin classes… https://helpful.knobs-dials.com/index.php/Inflection,_Derivation,_Declension,_Conjugation

 

“Listens for audience applause...” Bluebottle, The Goon Show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebottle_(character)

 

“The primary buffer panel has come off...” Serenity (2005) https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/serenity/quotes/

 

Thor: Ragnarok (2017) (and the horned helmet of Surt) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surtur_(Marvel_Comics)

 

Surt as destruction by fire

 

Warm knees – from the Havamal, verse 3 http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe04.htm

 

Fire in the heathen worldview

 

Muspelheim - ‘In the beginning there was fire’ https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/the-nine-worlds/muspelheim/

 

The Wicker Man (film 1973 and 2006)

 

“No grenades...” Serenity (2005)https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/serenity/quotes/

 

Fire as a provider of heat, warmth and light.  As a forge, and for a hearth fire. 

 

The use of candles and incense on altars

 

Fire as a requirement for advanced society

 

Loki’s trial at Utgard – his eating contest. https://norse-mythology.org/tale-utgarda-loki/

 

Fire as a transformer

 

The Viking cemetery at Repton – internment burials and cremation burials. http://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/Gateway/Results_Single.aspx?uid=MDR4288&resourceID=1023

 

Fires at camps, the creation of sacred space and frith

 

Viking metalwork – shield bosses, bridle fittings, hinges, locks, rivets and nails. See http://viking.archeurope.info/index.php?page=viking-metalworkand also http://vikingmetalwork.blogspot.co.uk/

 

The importance of fire in the Havamal – warmth as an element of frith.  Compare fire in verses 3, 68, 70 and 82

 

Fire and safety

 

Stars (and the sun) and the connection to fire

 

Kate remembers talking to a blacksmith, and how they measure the temperature of metal by sight.

 

Black Body Radiation https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbody_radiation

 

The connection between heated metal and stars.  Compare types of stars https://www.universetoday.com/24299/types-of-stars/  wit colours of heated steel https://sizes.com/materials/colors_of_heated_metals.htm

 

The constellation of Orion: the stars of Betelgeuse (kind of orangey colour) https://www.space.com/37344-alma-captures-clearest-image-of-betelgeuse.htmlon the top left of the constellation compared with Rigel (blue coloured) on the bottom right. http://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/blue-white-rigel-is-orions-brightest-star

 

“And all of this will happen again...” Battlestar Galactica (TV Series 2004 - 2009)

 

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Episode 30 – Ragnarok

March 17th, 2018

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

Good folks, we’re talking about the Ragnarok in this episode.  It’s okay to choose to listen to it at some future time – be kind to yourself and consider the option if you’re not in a good mental health place at the moment. 

 

‘I miss Wash’ - Firefly (TV series 2002-2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)  ) and Serenity (film 2005)

 

“All of this has happened before..” Battlestar Galactica (TV series 2004-2009)

 

The death of Baldur – as a foreshadow to the Ragnarok

 

Galadriel’s Mirror http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_Mirror_of_Galadriel

 

Breaking the bonds of kinship and the breaking of oaths – compare it to the oath they give to the builder in the Building of the Walls of Asgard

 

Fae contracts – look at the giving and keeping of promises in fairy tales.  There’s a good example in ‘Boots and His Crew’ http://www.mftd.org/index.php?action=story&id=3308

 

Three winters without summers – the Fimbulwinter

 

Spring Court – from Changeling: the lost RPG http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Spring_Court_(CTL)

 

The Binding of Loki

 

“The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more systems will slip through your fingers.” Princess Leia Organa, Star Wars: A New Hope (1977)

 

The Binding of Fenris

 

Music: Baltars Dream from Battlestar Galactica Season 2, by Bear McCreary, used with advice from the Performing Rights Society. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WOER-9WB0

 

The events of the Ragnarok, as described in the Poetic Edda and the Prose Edda

 

The Voluspa – stanzas 40-58 http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe03.htm

 

Gylfanning chapters 26, 34, 51-53 also has a few references to the Ragnarok https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Prose_Edda/Gylfaginning

 

Images of the Ragnarok:

Thorwalds Cross – Isle of Man - http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/lK4EapVHRgKV_DyFGeDeIQ

Gosforth Cross – Cumbria, UK - https://thejournalofantiquities.com/2013/05/18/the-gosforth-cross-cumbria/

Ledberg Stone, Sweden - https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Ledberg%20stone

Skarpaka Stone, Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skarp%C3%A5ker_Stone

 

Kate detours to the Isle of Man…

 

What might a Ragnarok look like now?

 

A self-care interlude: the Havamal

 

Things to consider with the Prose Edda.

 

How to find us online

 

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Episode 29 – Cyclical Time

March 5th, 2018

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

Squirrel Appreciation Day, or not… http://blog.nwf.org/2011/01/7-ways-to-celebrate-national-squirrel-appreciation-day/

 

William Shatner, dramatic acting and Brian Blessed – Ham acting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overactingand TV Tropes http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LargeHam

 

“And this is where the story really starts” The Goon Show

 

“All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.” JM Barrie’s Peter Pan (published 1911) and the Disney film (1953)  https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_(1953_film)

 

“So say we all” – an affirmation phrase from Battlestar Galactica (remake 2004 – 2007) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407362/trivia 

 

(music clip from ‘Kara Remembers’ - by Bear McCreary – used with permission from the PRS, as Kate phoned them up and checked)

 

The concept of cyclical time, or time going in cycles.

 

The myth cycle details the creation, the middle part and the end of days.  And what comes after.

 

Time Loops – hold onto your underwear, this is where it gets fun.  Check out the Bootstrap Paradox if you have time: https://youtu.be/Pp5VjZ3uhMc    https://youtu.be/u4SEDzynMiQ  (see what we did there?!)

 

Kyle Reece going back to rescue Sarah Connor part of the events from the Terminator franchise predestination paradox: http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Predestination_paradox

 

How did Doc Brown survive being shot without Marty’s warning the first time? - from the Back to the Future franchise. For more discussions, head here: http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/16532/the-plot-holes-and-paradoxes-of-the-back-to-the-future-trilogy

 

“Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey” – Dr Who (Series 3, episode 10 ‘Blink’)

 

Is time a loop, spiral or helix? Take a look here for an exploration for ‘What is now?’ and the random things your brain does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEuNa1Vp_b0

 

“Brain the size of a planet” - Marvin the Paranoid Android describing himself, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2014/05/happy-towel-day-six-life-lessons-live-marvin-paranoid-android

 

Pi (is always good) – the number one, not the apple one… https://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/pi.html

 

“We’re going to need a bigger boat.” - Jaws (1975)

 

10,000 Monkeys and Shakespeare – refers to Infinite Monkey Theorem. 

 

Kate’s UPG maths moment

 

“Spoilers, Sweetie.” Dr River Song, Dr Who. 

 

Looking at time in the myth cycle – The actions of the Allfather. At the beginning of the cycle he goes out and wanders the worlds, by the end he’s a lot more stern.

 

Frigga sings a spellsong throughout the known worlds to try and save her son, but it isn’t enough.

 

“Even if a man runs away from his destiny, he runs towards it.” take a look at Oedipus Rex: https://schoolworkhelper.net/fear-and-destiny-in-oedipus-rex-analysis/  and Jean de la Fontaine “Our destiny is frequently met in the very paths we take to avoid it.” (Book VIII (1678–1679), fable 16 (The Horoscope)).

 

Galadriel – from JRR Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings. http://coco.raceme.org/literature/lordoftherings/fellowship/quotes/lothlorien4.php

 

“I don’t want to be the wheel, I want to break the wheel.” Daneyris Targeryn, The Game of Thrones. Season 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Bo89m2f6g

 

Bill Murray – his character from the film Groundhog Day (1993).  A good example of Heliacal time – each day started the same, but ended differently depending on the choices he made. (And also had an escape point.)

 

“It never occurred to me to think of space as the thing that was moving.” - James Montgomery Scott, Star Trek (2009)  The whole plot of this film revolves around a time loop. 

 

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