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Episode 38 - Musical Kennings

July 15th, 2018

Episode 38 – Musical Kennings

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

Hogswatch/ Soul Cake Duck – both from the Discworld, Terry Pratchett

Yes, there is the heathen equivalent of an Easter Egg hidden away in one of our earlier episodes… ssssshhh, don’t tell everyone.

“That’s a good cup’o’joe.” Monsters vs Aliens (2009) https://www.videodetective.com/movies/monsters-vs-aliens-good-cup-of-joe/963754

Kenning – the Havamal example

the rune poem: ‘the sea-horse on the whale road’

“to ken” in Scot’s dialect

the rune Kennaz

That episode in Star Trek: The Next Generation – “Darmok” (season 5, episode 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok and http://www.startrek.com/article/one-trek-mind-deciphering-darmok

Spartans at Thermopylae https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Thermopylae-Greek-history-480-BC

Earth to Asgard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWmfIacPS94

Freya:
Salute by Little Mix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjpa0SMOug0
RESPECT – Aretha Franklin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOUqQt3Kg0

Frey:
“You don’t half look like your picture,”
Summertime by DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA
Fields of Gold by Eva Cassidy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UVjjcOUJLE
Diablo Roja by Rodrigo e Gabriella https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvaEHbeY2k you can watch them playing it live here (with an extra twiddly bit in the middle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT9hvyDvKHA

Hel
Living Dead Girl by Rob Zombie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvsMPOfblfg

Skathi
Life on Earth by Snow Patrol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqYWcp1JH7Y

Baldur
Shine by Take That https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwC1Ctrj6Xk
Titanium by Sia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRfuAukYTKg

Ragnarok
Skyfall by Adele https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ
Broadsword by Jethro Tull https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVBT6wktF5E
Come with Me Now by Kongos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz2GVlQkn4Q

Einherjar
The theme from Police Academy (1984). For a more eloquent exploration of reasoning, see this article: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-dumb-movies-with-disproportionately-awesome-theme-songs/

Being played by a police band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjWkTm4nTg4

Midgard
Hammer of Bronze by Robert Falkenstein http://www.odins-gift.com/poth/H/hammerofbronze.htm

I’m a Human Being by Sandi Thom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFCVuvC9iF8

Frigga’s relationship with Odin
The First Time (ever I saw your face) by Roberta Flack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id_UYLPSn6U

Loki tied to the rocks, calling out to Odin
Hello by Adele https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQHsXMglC9A

“Covered in bees!” Eddie Izzard, from his Glorious tour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs-tl6GBOBo

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Episode 37 - Thor’s Journey to Utgard - part 2

July 1st, 2018

Episode 37 – Thors Journey to Utgard part 2

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

Working Men’s Clubs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_men%27s_club

 

Derby and Joan Clubs – post-war social clubs for senior citizens, often with light entertainment, live music, board games and light refreshments. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darby_and_Joan and https://www.royalvoluntaryservice.org.uk/Uploads/Documents/About%20us/Darby_and_Joan.pdf

 

‘Born to Rune’ Reference to a new leather robe that the Dean makes in Terry Pratchett’s Soul Music published in 1994 http://discworld.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Music

 

‘That Stone Guy from Ragnarok’ - Korg. See https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/11/05/five-brilliant-hidden-jokes-you-probably-missed-in-thor-ragnarok/#5d7c20236c5c

 

Thing 1 and Thing 2 – Dr Seuss, The Cat in the Hat http://seuss.wikia.com/wiki/Thing_One_and_Thing_Two

 

“The hero Midgard deserves, not the hero Midgard needs...” parody of The Dark Knight (2008)(ending scene) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2jPwMM7Do4 https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(film)

 

“Breaker of crockery.” From Thor (2011) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOztBBSqDTM

 

“You won’t like me when I’m hangry.” Hangry – to be irritable from hunger. Parody of ‘You Won’t like me when I’m angry’, most famously from The Hulk. Head here for the trope: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouWouldntLikeMeWhenImAngry and here for the Hulk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_(comics)

 

“Thor shot first.” Parody of ‘Han Shot First.” Star Wars (IV:A New Hope) – referencing a scene which was changed in the Special Edition of Star Wars, to show Han Solo shooting a bounty hunter in response to being shot at. The original showed him shooting the bounty hunter first (which gives a much better start to his character arc from rogue to hero.) http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Han_shot_first

 

Tricksters and hunger/food – Head back to Frithcast episode 26

 

Pac Man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pac-Man

 

“Would the Real Slim Shady please stand up?” Slim Shady is an alter ego of the rapper Eminem, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Slim_Shady

 

(As far as Suzanne remembers, in the original when the Giant king explains all his tricks at the end in the original, he misses out Thalfi’s races. Most of the translations and English versions have the giant king explain that Thalfi ran against Hugi – the speed of thought.)

 

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Episode 36 - Thor’s Journey to Utgard part I

June 15th, 2018

Episode 36 – Thor’s Journey to Utgard part 1

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

Prime Numbers - https://www.khanacademy.org/math/pre-algebra/pre-algebra-factors-multiples/pre-algebra-prime-numbers/v/prime-numbers

“George, don’t do that.” from the wonderful Joyce Grenfell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXhHFgDRNBQ

“Stand back! I’m making toast!” The epic toast making scene from Invader Zim - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ntiphuey8g

The Odd Couple (1968) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odd_Couple_(film)

Stadler and Waldorf – from The Muppets – the two elderly gentlemen known for their cantankerous opinions. If you want to see them in action, head here for a compilation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6I_dKUYyI4

“We could do ‘get help!’” from Thor Ragnarok (2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpZakOJlRoY

Thors Journey to Utgard – other versions that you can have an explore around:

http://thenorsegods.com/thors-journey-to-utgard/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6XeP9gQPmg

https://norse-mythology.org/tale-utgarda-loki/

Tolkien’s Middle Earth http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Middle-earth

Titus Andronicus - https://www.ucl.ac.uk/moveable-type/pdfs/2009-10/ArticleGregg-TitusAndronicus.pdf

“Meow Meow” What Darcy, Jane Fosters sister called Mjolnir in Thor (2011), and Thor: The Dark World (2013)

“Did you have PPI missold?” https://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/i-think-ive-been-mis-sold-ppi-what-should-i-do

“The first rule of Goat Club...” paraphrased from Fight Club (1999)

Forty days and forty nights – a biblical metaphor for a long time.

“Frodo leaves the shire, arrives at Mordor, drops the ring in – job done.” - The short, short version of JRR Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings.

Peter Dinklages dwarf-giant in Avengers: Infinity War (2018) (spoilers in the link) http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/the-avengers/feature/a855259/avengers-infinity-war-peter-dinklage-eitri/

Seven League Boots – see also Ten League Boots – common in fairy tales, such as this one originally written in french: http://www.tenleagueboots.com/company/little-thumb/index.html

Langoliers – TV mini series 1995 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112040/

Gordian Knot - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot

“Everything’s fine, la, la, la, just getting a bucket.” Calvin and Hobbes comic strip 12th August 1988.

 

 

Thing One and Thing Two – Dr Seuss, The Cat in the Hat: http://seuss.wikia.com/wiki/Thing_One_and_Thing_Two

 

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Episode 35 - Honour

June 7th, 2018

Episode 35 – Honour

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

“No, she hasn’t got a funny hat on...” Joyce Grenfell http://www.monologues.co.uk/First_Ladies/Free_Activity_Period.htm

Flailing Chocolate International Tour Locations – The Herdwick Stadium, Giggleswick (From way back in Episode 5...)

“No, no, no, parking is available in the Upper Field.” The Vicar of Dibley (1994) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/11217538/The-Vicar-of-Dibley-6-funniest-moments.html

Thanos – the Marvel Cinematic Universe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos

“Honour has killed millions of people, it hasn’t saved a single one.” Jean Baptise Emmanuelle Zorg, The Fifth Element (1997) https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Fifth_Element

“Valiant men who exert a good influence are called Drengr.” Snorri Sturlson: from http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/society/text/drengur.htm

Honour in Egil’s Saga: https://sillyhistory.com/2015/09/26/honor-in-egils-saga/

Egil’s Saga if you’d like to have a read: http://www.vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/Egla/Egils_saga.pdf

“It’s better not to offer, than offer too much.” - Havamal 144 (https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/havamal.html)

Thorolf (from Egil’s Saga) features on Pimp my Longship – (Kate says sorry for the wee sweary)

“This is Sparta!” - Leonidas, 300 (2006) for a clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI

An exploration of honour http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/society/text/drengur.htm

“Fools rush in, where angels fear to tread” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fools_rush_in_where_angels_fear_to_tread

Sun Tzu – On the Art of War - https://sites.ualberta.ca/~enoch/Readings/The_Art_Of_War.pdf

Mary Rose - https://maryrose.org/

USS Nimitz - http://www.nimitz.navy.mil/

Gragas – medieval law book http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/society/text/drengur.htm

Declaration 127 - http://www.heathenhof.com/declaration-127/

Delenn/ Sheridan and Sebastian - Comes the Inquisitor (Season 2, episode 21) Babylon 5 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comes_the_Inquisitor

Honour is a concept that Suzanne finds comes in at interactions between people that are non-regular. It’s more likely to be evidenced in situations that you don’t face every day – situations that may be at the extremes of human behaviour in the modern day. You can act honourably in any situation you face, but honour is subjective to your own interpretation, and how the people around you view what you have done (and to a lesser extent, why you have done it).

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Episode 34 – Three Little Norns Part II

May 16th, 2018

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

 

“Pink and white mellows” - marshmallows in the UK, may be known as other things elsewhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshmallow

 

Girl Guides https://www.girlguiding.org.uk/

 

“It’s goodnight from me and goodnight from her” Paraphrased from The Two Ronnie’s as one of their classic sign offs

 

Kate does all the introductions

 

chips and scraps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scraps_(batter)

 

The Norn’s have a rock garden

 

The relative size of stars (just in case you want to have a watch) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoW8Tf7hTGA

 

“The thing about the Yggdrassil, is that it’s really, really big...” Parphrased from the Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy http://hitchhikersguidequotes.tumblr.com/post/13945214509/space-is-big-really-big-you-just-wont-believe

 

Parcae (the Roman equivalent)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parcae

 

Spinning with a drop spindle https://www.interweave.com/article/spinning/about-drop-spindle-spinning/

 

“Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey” Dr Who ‘Blink’ 2007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2nNzNo_Xps

 

“Covered in Bees” Eddie Izzard – from his Glorious DVD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs-tl6GBOBo

 

The International Astronomical Union https://www.iau.org/ 

 

Bolas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas

 

“You don’t look like your average...” Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW_6WkbwyKA

 

Nidhogg https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/giants/nidhogg/

 

Skyrim  - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim

 

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Episode 33 – Three Little Norns from School are We

May 1st, 2018

Episode 33 – Three Little Norns from School are We

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

 

‘Four Candles/ If yon’s a meat pie...’ Two sketches from The Two Ronnies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VkjDSxBVqwand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpUY7n7ds9g

 

Three Little Maids from School Are We – From The Mikado, Gilbert and Sullivan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWkIZUPmDY

 

 Arthur Dent – The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Dent

 

‘A very good place to start’ - Do, Ray, Me, The Sound of Music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RW3nDRmu6k

 

Gandalf rolling his ‘rrrrr’s’ in pronouncing ‘Mordor’ – From ‘The Lord of the Rings’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waGogciXcJA

 

Oxo cubes – gravy granules in cube form… first created in 1910…http://www.oxo.co.uk/our-range/stock-cubes

 

Life as a thread within the tapestry

 

The Death of Baldur and Frigga’s spellsong

 

The Mirror of Galadriel - http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_Mirror_of_Galadriel

 

The Roman Parkai – the equivalent in Roman cosmology and the Greek Moirai– the equivalent in Greek cosmology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fates

 

The synchronicity between the Greek and Roman deities https://www.oneonta.edu/faculty/farberas/arth/ARTH209/gods_greek_roman.html 

 

The Stygian Witches – from The Clash of the Titans (1981) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_the_Titans_(1981_film)

 

“Don’t you roll that crystal eye at me...” Parodied from ‘Don’t Roll Those Bloodshot Eyes at Me.’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_A4Su-TrI

 

Fatalism in the Havamal – verse 23

 

Que Sera Sera - https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=que%20sera%20sera

 

Alia iacta est – Julius Caesar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alea_iacta_est

 

The Allfather asks for a sacrifice – (Suzanne can’t remember which dratted Saga this comes from. She’ll do her best to hunt it out before the deadline for this episode to go up on time. Any hints greatly accepted, answers on a piece of batter puddling to the usual address...)

 

 

“Hanged, Mr Holmes” - (Sherlock Season 1, ‘The Great Game’ 2010) https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sherlock_(TV_series)

 

“No, but his spear is...” - From the Saga of Burnt Njal Thorgrím climbed up on the roof. Gunnar saw a red coat appear at the window and lunged at Thorgrím with his spear. Thorgrím’s feet slipped from under him and he tumbled from the roof. He then walked over to Gizur who asked: “Well, is Gunnar home?” Thorgrím answered:“All I know is that his spear is!” and fell dead to the ground.”

 

Stage magic and the Magicians Choice - http://www.mrmagician.co.uk/magicians-choice.htmland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation_(magic)

 

Dr Who – fixed points in history http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Fixed_point_in_time

 

A side topic – Christianity and the concept of free will https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/a-beginner-s-guide-to-free-will

 

The Multiverse Theory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvcOQk6G0Q

 

Suzanne and Kate sing Skyfall (sung much better by Adele) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ

 

Casino Royale is waiting...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino_Royale_(2006_film

 

How to find us online

 

 

A little more exploration into the concept of free will in philosophy: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/freewill/

 

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Episode 32 – Ancestors

April 15th, 2018

Episode 32 – Ancestors

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

Theme tune from The Muppets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ9yAV8uQ7g

 

About the ancestors

 

What ancestors mean to Suzanne

 

Charlemagne and how everyone alive today is linked together.  It’s like Six Degrees of Separation.  But bigger.  We’re talking about Charlemagne and the peoples of Europe, because it’s an example that we’re familiar with, and not because we’re folkish.  The theory of interrelation applies all across the planet. https://www.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford

it’s also been explored elsewhere: http://icelandreview.com/stuff/views/2007/02/08/iceland-family-tree

 

The Theory behind it all http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/05/07/charlemagnes-dna-and-our-universal-royalty/

 

Suzanne talks through liberal universalist heathenism, as it relates to ancestors.

 

Kate talks through ancestors and universalist principles

 

Vikings in the sagas: how did they look at their ancestors?  Take a look at Hilda Ellis ‘Road to Hel’ There’s a PDF available online for free here, or you can see if your local library has a copy. http://www.germanicmythology.com/scholarship/road_to_hel.pdf  

 

The practice of ‘sitting out’ in the sagas and ancestors petitioned for blessings and help: https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/ancestors/

 

A way to greet your ancestors in ritual

 

Ancestors, names and faith

 

A discussion of bloodline, family, adoption and kinship bonds.  Spoiler: it’s all good.

 

If your family or ancestors are in another country

 

A bit about petitioning your own ancestors for help

 

The (dreaded) Christmas Round Robin – bringing your family news to your ancestors.  If you’ve not encountered a round robin Christmas letter before, here’s a couple of links: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/christmas/2016/12/17/round-robin-letters-say-really-mean/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/christmas/12033603/Glib-tidings-we-bring-the-terror-of-the-round-robin-letter.html

 

 

The Dis – your female ancestors (your mitochondrial ancestors) You can do a blot or ritual to honour them, called a Disirblot.

 

The Roman Dis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C4%ABs_Pater

 

Dis Manibus – ‘To the Spirits of the Dead’ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Dis_Manibus_inscriptions

 

Boaty McBoatface https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/apr/17/boaty-mcboatface-wins-poll-to-name-polar-research-vessel

 

The memorial at The Gherkin to the unknown Roman girl. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/tomb-of-the-unknown-london-girl

 

“These are not the Dis you are looking for… move along” paraphrased from Star Wars IV: A New Hope (1979)

 

Birth runes and the Dis

In the Lay of Atil, Glaumvor tells Gunnar her husband of several dreams of the Dis.  From this she knows that if he does the actions he plans, the Dis will come to claim him.

 

Valkyrie: the choosers of the slain - https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/valkyries/

 

Humanitas – connection between people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitas

 

If you’d like to look at an additional short video about ancestors and ancient groups from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zmgkdxs?intc_type=mixedcards&intc_location=tomorrowsworld&intc_campaign=iplayerfooter&intc_linkname=guide_dnatests_contentcard15

 

 

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Episode 31 – Lord Surt and Fire

March 30th, 2018

Episode 31 – Lord Surt and Fire

 

Shout out to TAC Charter member  , for the topic for this episode

 

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

There’s lots of UPG in this episode, we’ve tried to reference it as best we can.

 

Suzanne and Kate conjugate and decline – dratted latin classes… https://helpful.knobs-dials.com/index.php/Inflection,_Derivation,_Declension,_Conjugation

 

“Listens for audience applause...” Bluebottle, The Goon Show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebottle_(character)

 

“The primary buffer panel has come off...” Serenity (2005) https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/serenity/quotes/

 

Thor: Ragnarok (2017) (and the horned helmet of Surt) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surtur_(Marvel_Comics)

 

Surt as destruction by fire

 

Warm knees – from the Havamal, verse 3 http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe04.htm

 

Fire in the heathen worldview

 

Muspelheim - ‘In the beginning there was fire’ https://norse-mythology.org/cosmology/the-nine-worlds/muspelheim/

 

The Wicker Man (film 1973 and 2006)

 

“No grenades...” Serenity (2005)https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/serenity/quotes/

 

Fire as a provider of heat, warmth and light.  As a forge, and for a hearth fire. 

 

The use of candles and incense on altars

 

Fire as a requirement for advanced society

 

Loki’s trial at Utgard – his eating contest. https://norse-mythology.org/tale-utgarda-loki/

 

Fire as a transformer

 

The Viking cemetery at Repton – internment burials and cremation burials. http://www.heritagegateway.org.uk/Gateway/Results_Single.aspx?uid=MDR4288&resourceID=1023

 

Fires at camps, the creation of sacred space and frith

 

Viking metalwork – shield bosses, bridle fittings, hinges, locks, rivets and nails. See http://viking.archeurope.info/index.php?page=viking-metalworkand also http://vikingmetalwork.blogspot.co.uk/

 

The importance of fire in the Havamal – warmth as an element of frith.  Compare fire in verses 3, 68, 70 and 82

 

Fire and safety

 

Stars (and the sun) and the connection to fire

 

Kate remembers talking to a blacksmith, and how they measure the temperature of metal by sight.

 

Black Body Radiation https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbody_radiation

 

The connection between heated metal and stars.  Compare types of stars https://www.universetoday.com/24299/types-of-stars/  wit colours of heated steel https://sizes.com/materials/colors_of_heated_metals.htm

 

The constellation of Orion: the stars of Betelgeuse (kind of orangey colour) https://www.space.com/37344-alma-captures-clearest-image-of-betelgeuse.htmlon the top left of the constellation compared with Rigel (blue coloured) on the bottom right. http://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/blue-white-rigel-is-orions-brightest-star

 

“And all of this will happen again...” Battlestar Galactica (TV Series 2004 - 2009)

 

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Episode 30 – Ragnarok

March 17th, 2018

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

Good folks, we’re talking about the Ragnarok in this episode.  It’s okay to choose to listen to it at some future time – be kind to yourself and consider the option if you’re not in a good mental health place at the moment. 

 

‘I miss Wash’ - Firefly (TV series 2002-2003 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly_(TV_series)  ) and Serenity (film 2005)

 

“All of this has happened before..” Battlestar Galactica (TV series 2004-2009)

 

The death of Baldur – as a foreshadow to the Ragnarok

 

Galadriel’s Mirror http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_Mirror_of_Galadriel

 

Breaking the bonds of kinship and the breaking of oaths – compare it to the oath they give to the builder in the Building of the Walls of Asgard

 

Fae contracts – look at the giving and keeping of promises in fairy tales.  There’s a good example in ‘Boots and His Crew’ http://www.mftd.org/index.php?action=story&id=3308

 

Three winters without summers – the Fimbulwinter

 

Spring Court – from Changeling: the lost RPG http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Spring_Court_(CTL)

 

The Binding of Loki

 

“The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more systems will slip through your fingers.” Princess Leia Organa, Star Wars: A New Hope (1977)

 

The Binding of Fenris

 

Music: Baltars Dream from Battlestar Galactica Season 2, by Bear McCreary, used with advice from the Performing Rights Society. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WOER-9WB0

 

The events of the Ragnarok, as described in the Poetic Edda and the Prose Edda

 

The Voluspa – stanzas 40-58 http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe03.htm

 

Gylfanning chapters 26, 34, 51-53 also has a few references to the Ragnarok https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Prose_Edda/Gylfaginning

 

Images of the Ragnarok:

Thorwalds Cross – Isle of Man - http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/lK4EapVHRgKV_DyFGeDeIQ

Gosforth Cross – Cumbria, UK - https://thejournalofantiquities.com/2013/05/18/the-gosforth-cross-cumbria/

Ledberg Stone, Sweden - https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Ledberg%20stone

Skarpaka Stone, Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skarp%C3%A5ker_Stone

 

Kate detours to the Isle of Man…

 

What might a Ragnarok look like now?

 

A self-care interlude: the Havamal

 

Things to consider with the Prose Edda.

 

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Episode 29 – Cyclical Time

March 5th, 2018

Things we talk about in this episode:

 

Opening Music:

'Ancient Whispers I' by P C III, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence.

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/P_C_III/Ad_Astra_Vol_1/03_Ancient_Whispers_I]

 

Closing Music:

'Round II - The Ancients' by Learning Music, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Licence

[http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Learning_Music/An_End_Like_This/32_Round_II_-_The_Ancients]

 

Background fire ambience by inchadney from freesound.org

 

Squirrel Appreciation Day, or not… http://blog.nwf.org/2011/01/7-ways-to-celebrate-national-squirrel-appreciation-day/

 

William Shatner, dramatic acting and Brian Blessed – Ham acting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overactingand TV Tropes http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LargeHam

 

“And this is where the story really starts” The Goon Show

 

“All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.” JM Barrie’s Peter Pan (published 1911) and the Disney film (1953)  https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_(1953_film)

 

“So say we all” – an affirmation phrase from Battlestar Galactica (remake 2004 – 2007) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407362/trivia 

 

(music clip from ‘Kara Remembers’ - by Bear McCreary – used with permission from the PRS, as Kate phoned them up and checked)

 

The concept of cyclical time, or time going in cycles.

 

The myth cycle details the creation, the middle part and the end of days.  And what comes after.

 

Time Loops – hold onto your underwear, this is where it gets fun.  Check out the Bootstrap Paradox if you have time: https://youtu.be/Pp5VjZ3uhMc    https://youtu.be/u4SEDzynMiQ  (see what we did there?!)

 

Kyle Reece going back to rescue Sarah Connor part of the events from the Terminator franchise predestination paradox: http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Predestination_paradox

 

How did Doc Brown survive being shot without Marty’s warning the first time? - from the Back to the Future franchise. For more discussions, head here: http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/16532/the-plot-holes-and-paradoxes-of-the-back-to-the-future-trilogy

 

“Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey” – Dr Who (Series 3, episode 10 ‘Blink’)

 

Is time a loop, spiral or helix? Take a look here for an exploration for ‘What is now?’ and the random things your brain does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEuNa1Vp_b0

 

“Brain the size of a planet” - Marvin the Paranoid Android describing himself, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2014/05/happy-towel-day-six-life-lessons-live-marvin-paranoid-android

 

Pi (is always good) – the number one, not the apple one… https://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/pi.html

 

“We’re going to need a bigger boat.” - Jaws (1975)

 

10,000 Monkeys and Shakespeare – refers to Infinite Monkey Theorem. 

 

Kate’s UPG maths moment

 

“Spoilers, Sweetie.” Dr River Song, Dr Who. 

 

Looking at time in the myth cycle – The actions of the Allfather. At the beginning of the cycle he goes out and wanders the worlds, by the end he’s a lot more stern.

 

Frigga sings a spellsong throughout the known worlds to try and save her son, but it isn’t enough.

 

“Even if a man runs away from his destiny, he runs towards it.” take a look at Oedipus Rex: https://schoolworkhelper.net/fear-and-destiny-in-oedipus-rex-analysis/  and Jean de la Fontaine “Our destiny is frequently met in the very paths we take to avoid it.” (Book VIII (1678–1679), fable 16 (The Horoscope)).

 

Galadriel – from JRR Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings. http://coco.raceme.org/literature/lordoftherings/fellowship/quotes/lothlorien4.php

 

“I don’t want to be the wheel, I want to break the wheel.” Daneyris Targeryn, The Game of Thrones. Season 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Bo89m2f6g

 

Bill Murray – his character from the film Groundhog Day (1993).  A good example of Heliacal time – each day started the same, but ended differently depending on the choices he made. (And also had an escape point.)

 

“It never occurred to me to think of space as the thing that was moving.” - James Montgomery Scott, Star Trek (2009)  The whole plot of this film revolves around a time loop. 

 

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